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| Pookie | Oct 15 2013, 06:58 PM Post #1 |
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This has to do with a lot of bogus calls I have seen this year with defensive players making stops. I understand that players need to be protected because of how serious injuries can be in the NFL. However, I feel like some players are "really really" protected. It seems today that defensive players are limited. For instance, when the Giants played the bears, I saw that JPP lightly tapped Cutler on the helmet, and it was a penalty. The commentators were saying how it was a crazy call because JPP just tapped him, and it was a big/costly penalty. This isn't just in the Giants game though. I've seen some other bogus calls especially pass interference calls. It seems like any tug or any minor touch can be a penalty. Football is a contact sport, which is why I feel like there should be some balance. I feel like some penalties/rules have hindered the defense to do anything especially against read-option quarterbacks. Thoughts? |
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| Hurry My Curry | Oct 17 2013, 03:49 AM Post #16 |
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I saw the hit Suh was fined for today. That is an outrageous fine. That was a totally clean and form tackle. It's clear that they are just fining him, because it's him. |
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Oct 17 2013, 04:14 AM Post #17 |
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Lol tell me about it, a perfect example would be last years SB in the last 5 minutes M. Crabtree caught a pass on 3rd and goal in the redzone and only took 1 before being blatantly hit helmet to helmet, in order for that hit to even be legal Crabs would have had to duck his head and defend himself, which he didn't and the Ravens player gave him a concussion (Crabs even stated he couldn't see anything for a couple of seconds after that hit) Here is the link to the video showing just that... http://youtu.be/hf7CMRkO8AE It just irritates me how Rodger Goodell can stand on that podium and preach for days on in, about how he want to protect his plays, and enforcing these helmet to helmet hit, but on the biggest stage in football in which everyone and their kids are watching these same kids that want to grow up and become football players sit there and watch the final drive in the 4th quarter of the SB, in the redzone see THE most blatant helmet to helmet I've seen in a while, any other game without a doubt in my mind that same sequence would have been a H2H flag and a 1st and Goal... Shoulda Woulda Could've right >:( When it all comes down to is money, this is a business and Ray Lewis going out with a ring would have netted more stacks in Goodells pockets to go blow off is strip clubs in the ATL lol. As you can tell I'm still pretty damn salty about the SB pretty much just being handed to the Ravens
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| Hurry My Curry | Oct 17 2013, 10:24 PM Post #18 |
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lol@ Ravens being handed a superbowl. Who turned out those lights again? BTW, Goodell doesn't make any money from Moss going out on top? From a backup QB leading his team to a superbowl win after replacing a new starter? Edited by Hurry My Curry, Oct 17 2013, 10:27 PM.
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Oct 18 2013, 03:59 AM Post #19 |
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Nooobody... lol but tbh no one really know how the lights went out, that Saint stadium is old and to support the SB I doubt it could have and it showed. But those refs were 10 feet from those blatant H2H penalty's that weren't called, NFL refs surpass NBA coaches for scumbags. Goodell doesn't give two sh**tz about Moss and Moss isn't so great anymore the niners used him as a decoy for the entire season even with Alex Smith or Kaep he still looked the same. And Ray Lewis was the face of the playoffs last year don't even say he wasn't game after game he'd be spittin out quotable left and right like "NO WEAPON FORGED AGAINST US SHALL PROSPER!" That religious bull that the NFL loved but when Tebow said anything religious he'd get s***ted on. Which also backs up my point on Goodell cradling his money maker. In which he does make money, not straight to him but to the NFL in form of ADS and selling that good wholesome religious hall of famer player to the consumers! When is reality he was part of a double homicide, lol in which the white suit he was wearing the night of the homicides went down was never found again. How quaint
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| Hurry My Curry | Oct 18 2013, 04:06 AM Post #20 |
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So how are you exactly proving that Goodell wrigged it for the Ravens? I could easily say Goodell rigged the lights to halt the Ravens momentum, and you wouldn't be able to say anything else, since we are using assumptions now. You act like Ray Lewis was some amazing linebacker last year. He was just as washed up as Moss, but we didn't really have any better options at inside linebacker. And the whole emotional speech thing has been Ray his whole career, not some new thing in the playoffs last year. How can you blame Goodell for cashing in on the attention the MEDIA gave Tebow. Was Goodell going to the media and forcing them to air Tebow so much? Their is sooo much blatant bias here. |
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Oct 18 2013, 04:57 AM Post #21 |
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Bias towards who exactly? Tebow played for the Broncos at the time and played amazing and I'm defending him so that makes me bias? lolwut? In my last post all I stated was how much Ray being a drama queen stating that it was her last season playing and with his motivation pushing momentum his way which is a great thing, look at the Giants the year before they pulled of an amazing SB run... Kudos But more mainly how Goodell was gonna push all the media attention towards the retiring HOF'er Ray Lewis in which he can very well do.Assumptions? The refs were 6-10 feet away from the most blatant H2H call since Ryan Clark laid out Willis Mcgahee in the 2009 playoffs... Every sports radio station, sports talk show were talking about it the entire week after the SB it wasn't just me homie. Now that's BLATANT xD lol Edited by Volt the Mean, Oct 18 2013, 05:10 AM.
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| Hurry My Curry | Oct 18 2013, 06:22 AM Post #22 |
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Why are you going completely off topic? What does any of this have to do with your claim that Goodell fixed the superbowl? How is pushing media attention towards Lewis's upcoming retirement at all related to rigging the superbowl? Their is no evidence at all to prove such an absurd claim. Seems like a nice copout for the 49ers actually losing. That's why I said blatant bias. BTW, helmet to helmet calls is probably the most inconsistent call in the rules. The Crabtree hit is definitely not the only helmet to helmet call that the refs have ever missed, which is how you are making it seem. Edited by Hurry My Curry, Oct 18 2013, 06:22 AM.
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Oct 18 2013, 07:42 AM Post #23 |
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I responded to your claims, all of them lol. Read your posts and read mine we were going back and forth, I just find that when you know I'm right, you pull out this "Going off topic card" When you were the first one to mention Rodger Goodell turning off the stadium lights for the Niners lol? really? I bet you believe in the Illuminati too ![]() and the main claim about the Crabs H2H hit that is... Well yes the most inconsistent call in the game, but when your commissioner preaches for two straight years about player safety and then on the biggest stage of the NFL the most blatant call since Ryan Clark decimated the Ravens RB Willis McGahee in the 2009 playoffs is called and the best of the "so called" best referees are only 6-10 feet away and it doesn't get called? Are you kidding me? that's just plain outrageous! Oh well at least we all know what side the refs and Goodell were on... ![]() Well I'm done with this topic but if you wanna keep going I'm all for it , but this is the SB and I will forever be "salty" over that bulls**it non call.
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| Fulgore | Oct 18 2013, 08:03 AM Post #24 |
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That hit turned Crabs' into a bobblehead. I don't think ANYONE could have missed it |
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| Sam | Oct 18 2013, 11:57 AM Post #25 |
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Yes, that is all very off topic. The NFL section and specifically this topic is not about how bitter and upset 49ers fans are because they lost the Superbowl. The Ravens kicked their a***, and then the 9ers still almost came back and won it all. Get over it. And no, I am not a Raven fan. I am a FOOTBALL FAN. I have literally zero bias towards any specific team. Ray Lewis led the league in tackles during the playoffs last year FYI. Now on topic, I had to facepalm when I read an article quoting RG3 where he basically said he manipulates the rules to protect QBs by purposely trying to draw late hits on the sideline, which is a 15 yard penalty. I have more of a problem with the fact that he is so open about it because it makes defensive players hesitate to hit him, because he could just run out of bounds, get hit, then draw a penalty. And if they aren't aggressive, due to his incredible speed, he could break one out like against the Vikings last year, or at least pick up a few more yards. NFL players are paid a f***load of money. Their bodies getting wrecked is an occupational hazard. It's one thing to advocate player safety, legitimately or otherwise, and another to sue the league because they wasted all their money. Not to mention endorsements and fame and all that. Crippling the game because of lawsuits IS bulls*** and that's a lot of what this is about. If you have quarterbacks manipulating rules to benefit the offense then obviously something is wrong. I agree with the notion of having every player sign something absconding the NFL of wrongdoing if someone's body is f***ed up down the road and they try to sue. If they don't want to put up with the extreme physical nature of a GAME they are paid millions to play, then, they can go out in the real world and get a normal job. Suddenly getting paid millions to be a famous football player but severely damaging your body seems a lot better of an option than working at the returns counter at Best Buy. |
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| Sam | Oct 18 2013, 10:05 PM Post #26 |
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I said this is not the topic for this. You have been warned and anyone else being off topic will be warned as well. |
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But more mainly how Goodell was gonna push all the media attention towards the retiring HOF'er Ray Lewis in which he can very well do.

, but this is the SB and I will forever be "salty" over that bulls**it non call.





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